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    Quote Originally Posted by gavin View Post
    with one BKF poster saying that his winter losses were the same as larger hives.
    I think he attributed that, at least in part, to having young queens in the boxes which (combined with the nice dimensions of the unit) is probably about the mark. But yes they're very easy and economical to overwinter.

    They're also a nice box to keep queens in while they're on the grafting rota.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drumgerry View Post
    Can't we have a category on the forum for discussing the "The nucleus of fecundation"?!!
    Fecundation off!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by prakel View Post
    They're also a nice box to keep queens in while they're on the grafting rota.
    That hadn't occurred to me, thanks. Jon was also suggesting trying a Paynes 6 frame with a 6 frame brood box on top as a cell raiser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatshark View Post
    Is there a problem ... I just ordered a new toy from them and they were straightforward to deal with and delivered v. fast.
    I wrote to them in my very best French with questions on delivery and the like, and heard nothing. When I returned to their web site later, considering just ordering without knowing what the delivery cost would be, they'd run out of frames.

    Besides, once you've searched for them in Google, Icko adverts appear all over the internet, up the side of Facebook and everywhere. Not something that endears me to a retailer.

    Wilara have even better deals and are responsive. But by the time I got in touch with them I was already negotiating with Abelo for the MiniPluses so have ordered other stuff from Wilara. Bear in mind these prices get 21% tax added.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gavin View Post
    Jon was also suggesting trying a Paynes 6 frame with a 6 frame brood box on top as a cell raiser.
    When I first tried Pasaga Ramic's cell starter last season I used a doubled up mini-plus so as to avoid wasting larger resources if it all went wrong. Worked very well although I did did keep the number of grafts low. Seem to remember Joe Latshaw writing (on Beesource) that he uses a Langstroth five frame nuc as a starter -he also gave figures re numbers and averages. I'll try to find a link later today (unless someone would like to do it for me in the meantime ).

    This wasn't my first attempt at using the m-p's as cell starters either -we've got a mini-plus cloake board in the shed from previous experiments!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gavin View Post
    I wrote to them in my very best French with questions on delivery and the like, and heard nothing.... Wilara have even better deals and are responsive. [/COLOR]
    Wilara is quoting lower prices, allowing for VAT/tax. Icko comes up with "Icko beekeeping". See if that activates Google's advert flooding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gavin View Post
    Wilara have even better deals and are responsive. But by the time I got in touch with them I was already negotiating with Abelo for the MiniPluses so have ordered other stuff from Wilara. Bear in mind these prices get 21% tax added.
    I found Icko responsive, and quick delivery, i wrote to them in English.

    I know your looking for mini plus, but i just noted the price of swi-bines on the Wilara site out of interest, they are a lot more expensive per individual box price than Swienty.
    Wilara 12.50 plus tax on top.
    Swienty 10.23 including tax, plus a further discount on quantity, and even more discount if ordering through beefarmers association, around 7.90.

    Edit...even better, the Swienty ones can be bought without frames for 8.48, and then the same discounts on top, as above, taking them to just over 6 each
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    Quote Originally Posted by prakel View Post
    ...we've got a mini-plus cloake board in the shed from previous experiments!
    Was just wondering, this morning, about using a cloake board but the Amm are in Swienty polyhives. Anyone tried switching the floor for such an exercise? I've adapted one to save having to change the floor round to face the other way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete L View Post
    I found Icko responsive, and quick delivery, i wrote to them in English.
    Must be where I went wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kate Atchley View Post
    [*]drone flooding how many 'drone' frames (of whichever kind you recommend) per colony?
    This is one which might deserve some further discussion. Back during the winter 'Duncan' who's a man who knows a bit about queen rearing posted a comment about limiting the number of drones per queen to maximize their vitality which really, when you think about it, is exactly what we do with our selected breeder queen (on the daughter line); keep her ticking over but not working to her maximum output.

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