Jon

Queens galore

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A fortnight ago I went down to the home place to mark queens for my father. He has 12 colonies and I managed to find and mark 8 of his queens. There was one colony of very runny bees full of brood but I couldn't find the queen even after going through the box a second time. The box had a load of brace comb as it was one frame short.
When we had finished up, he noticed that the bees in this colony were running around on the front of the box like a queenless hive. I suspected that the queen may have had a mishap during the manipulations to remove the brace comb but I put it to the back of my mind.
Today, 15 days on, I took another run out with the idea of marking the queens I had missed the last time.
I started with the box full of runny bees and the first two brood frames I checked only had a bit of sealed brood. I then heard a queen piping in the box. The next frame had a few open queen cells and several on the point of hatching or with the queen being held in. I saw a virgin running around on the frame.
I started removing the queen cells and all in all I managed to cage 8 queens, most of them big healthy looking specimens.
He only had 3 Apideas so we sprayed bees from the runny colony with water, shook them into a lid and put a cupful in each Apidea. A virgin queen was introduced to each via the front door. I took the remaining five queens home and will make up 5 Apideas tomorrow if the queens are still alive in the morning. He didn't have any queen cages so I had to put the queens in transparent sample jars which he had from his last job as a milk inspector. (from which he retired 15 years ago, must have known they would come in useful some day)
There was a dead queen outside the box at the front and I reckon there were still two or three running around inside. They will fight it out as I removed all the queen cells. the trigger for a swarm is not having two queens, rather having a queen plus a sealed queen cell in the box. It was only about 11c today so a bit too cold for an attempt at swarming.
It's not a colony I would have chosen for queen rearing but you never know when a mated queen might come in handy. The bees were calm enough, just very runny on the comb.
Hope there are enough drones around as it is still very early. Still, nothing ventured, nothing gained.

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  1. Trog's Avatar
    What do you mean by runny - just running about excitedly? Any idea what this means?
  2. Jon's Avatar
    just running about excitedly?
    Pretty much so. Most bees remain fairly static on the frame when you remove it, which is what you want. These ones ran around frantically and tended to beard from the bottom bar of the frame. I have had the odd colony like this myself but it makes finding the queen next to impossible as she is usually in the middle of a cluster of bees at the bottom.
  3. Jimbo's Avatar
    Hi Jon,
    I also had a runny one and could not find the queen to mark her after going through the box 3 times! They say you can breed this characteristic out of them, however when I went back to the hive a few days later when the temp was a bit better they were nice as could be and I found the queen straight away. Bees hanging off the bottom of the frame tends to be the young bees.
    I saw my first hatched drone yesterday. It was in a hive from the new beekeeper I am mentoring. She thought she had spotted her queen! She did find her queen eventually and got her marked. It is still early yet with us for drones so I am hoping I don't get any early swarm cells.

    Jimbo