Maths isn't my strong point particularly the Times tables, perhaps poly hive could enlighten us?
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Maths isn't my strong point particularly the Times tables, perhaps poly hive could enlighten us?
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Worker: 3 days an egg, 5 days moulting, 13 days sealed. 21 days total
Drone: 3 days an egg, 8 days moulting, 13 days sealed. 24 days total
Queen: 3 days an egg, 5- days moulting, 8 days sealed. 16 days total.
Average figures subject to temperatures. Taken from memory and the Beekeeping Encyclopedia.
Without this info reading a colony is unlikely.
Some may remember the americanised bee fiasco in the border states when Africanised queens were found to emerge at 15.5 days. Several millions down the proverbial.
PH
Last edited by Poly Hive; 03-11-2013 at 07:21 PM. Reason: Accuracy
That queen 16 days thing will get you into trouble if you believe it verbatim. Subject to temperatures indeed! And am I stupid or does pupation not take place after sealing? If I am stupid hopefully I can rely on you lot to be nice about telling me so!
Go on then what part of 16 days is the issue? and yes pupation is after sealing sorry wrong word. Re temperatures... argue with Morse and Hooper
PH
Ok - maybe you need to take less of a tone PH.
All I meant is that you can't just assume that your queen cells are going to hatch exactly 8 days after they're sealed. As you suggest they can hatch sooner (ie the day or night before). They can also hatch later and I've frequently released healthy virgins from cells on day 17 or 18. And I was agreeing with you about your temperatures comment! Jeez!
Last edited by drumgerry; 03-11-2013 at 07:47 PM.
The problem with typing Drum is tone is in your head not mine.
PH
Aye whatever you say PH. I'm just imagining it eh?
Phew! Thanks PH - at least I now know that I knew my 'table of threes' all along and I'm sure Steven as well.Originally Posted by Poly Hive
Kitta
At the risk of igniting WW3, I was expecting the 'threes' to be worker timings:
3 days egg
6 days open
12 days capped (all with some variation of course)
so a steady state colony (a rarity in my apiary) should show a 1:2:4 ratio of the three types. Variations from it allow you to read the recent history of the colony.
That's what we teach our beginners. Are we wrong?
As it takes a day to do the final moult after the cell is sealed then that should be 6+1=7 days moulting? However what we see easily and therefore what really matters is the 3+6+12.
G.
Last edited by gavin; 04-11-2013 at 07:59 AM. Reason: clarity
That is the version I am familiar with as well3 days egg
6 days open
12 days capped (all with some variation of course)
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