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    Can we talk about GM crops?.
    I think I finally have the answer; no we cannot - but we'll break something trying!

    But, the rise of Monsanto and Scientology have many parallels. Is Monsanto just a front for the Scientologists to bring their version of the day of deliverence to us ?
    That would explain quite a lot..
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    I've heard of the wrong kind of snow and now we have the wrong kind of rat.
    Interesting study though would need to be repeated with a decent sample size and the right kind of rat whatever that is.

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    The main author seems to be a campaigning type, and campaigning scientists are always likely to mislead themselves and anyone who follows them. This article is scathing:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/henrymil...that-arent-so/

    ... although given Seralini's propensity to talk to his lawyers maybe I should say that I don't know the truth of the matter:

    http://corporateeurope.org/blog/rali...ibel-case-gmos

    The paper in question:

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...78691512005637

    I agree that the sample size is really small - and when you look at the detail the claims made are unsupportable. Look at Fig 1. The insets show mortality in the different levels of the thing altered in each set. The highest level of GM maize inclusion (33%) gave numbers of male rats with tumours which were very similar to the control with zero inclusion. How can it be that the highest inclusion rate gives fewer tumours than the second highest if GM maize causes tumours?

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    The anti GM movement's Harvard study perhaps?

    At face value confirms everything they want to hear but doesn't necessarily stand up to more critical analysis?

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