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    Default Need help with drawing and morphplot

    Firstly I have gone through my wings and have shuffled the points as such...



    Do they look correct placements?

    Next is I forgot what comes next, ( I know Rosie showed me but It's gone out of my head) How do I get data out of drawwing and onto morphplot?

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    Just looking at it thats an AMM wing

    Better get a thicker beesuit pronto LOL

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    None of your bad talk DR.
    I work mine with just a veil or a £6 observation smock.
    The problem is with the hybrids.
    Pure race bees of any sub species are well behaved.

    Wraith
    The placements look ok
    In Drawwing after finishing the scans:

    Click 'view' then 'indexes from directory' the click ok. Cut and paste the data into morphplot.

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    Ha Ha! just kidding

    Doesn't Morphology point to AMM having a longer sting and larger venom sacks.??

    By the way is the wing an AMM type one Neg CI ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Drone Ranger View Post

    By the way is the wing an AMM type one Neg CI ?
    It doesn't look like an amm wing to the naked eye. The CI is definitely high and I would say the DS is marginally positive.
    Last edited by Jon; 17-06-2012 at 09:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    It doesn't look like an amm wing to the naked eye. The CI is definitely high and I would say the DS is marginally positive.
    Oh well back to the drawing board

    Here's my drawing the little green dot to the right of the line is described as a positive shift
    And the little blue line would fit into the orange one about 3 times

    Looks like a Carniolan nice

    How did I do Jon

    http://www.beeworks.com/morphometry/index.html

    Here's a link to illustrate how morphometry can help
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    Last edited by The Drone Ranger; 18-06-2012 at 09:23 AM.

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    This was them in Early May



    This is what I took on the 17th after atrifcally swarming them a month or so before



    And Yes Drone Ranger is the winner, I'm booked into the doctors this afternoon cos I have a sting thats turned my left forearm into popeye, Pharmacy reckon it's infected, I know it chuffing hurts and I have pins and needles in my fingers now and then!!!
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    DR.
    The perpendicular line has to pass through point 2.

    Looks like half man half bicycle between AMM and Carnica.

    carnica plot with AMM.jpg
    Last edited by Jon; 18-06-2012 at 10:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    DR.
    The perpendicular line has to pass through point 2.

    Looks like half man half bicycle between AMM and Carnica.

    carnica plot with AMM.jpg
    I just drew the line from the mid point at right angles that was wrong
    That's good -- long live the queen

    Wraith looks like the plot is moving in the right direction for AMM anyway so that's good
    Bad luck on the sting thing sounds like its way beyond antihistamines now.
    My cat bit me last year and I had to have antibiotics the hand doubled in size thats why I'm campaigning against cat genes in the GM bee design forum

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    Might be hard to get a proper quorum of cats in an apidea.
    Easier to use jellyfish genes.

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