For your point of view it is not a debate - it is a
campaign to get neonicotinoids banned.
You have already decided that is what you want, so the exercise from you point of view is to cherrypick, cut and paste, bold and highlight, post clips from youtube and links to websites which campaign against pesticides. In short, a low brow tabloid approach based on the idiosyncratic style of borderbeeman.
Fair enough, each to their own, but I think in a different way.
I am prepared to change my mind as evidence changes.
I have already moved from a position similar to the one you hold now, based on an impartial evaluation of the evidence, and I would be quite prepared to change position again should compelling evidence be presented that neonicotinoids are a big problem for bees.
I think they can be highly dangerous in certain situations and there is no doubt that planter dust is lethal to bees.
The overwhelming evidence around seed treatments is that they are not causing a major problem through pollen or nectar at the levels typically found and foraged by honeybees..
If insecticides from whatever class are used, it is critical to work out which are more dangerous than others to non target species - homo sapiens for example.
You clearly see this as a crusade whereas I see it as an exercise in gathering evidence. That's where we differ.
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