Beekeeping court case

[Greengage]

I see in this months Irish Beekeeping Magazine "An Beachaire" page 136 there is a Headline "Royal Bad Behaviour!" referring to this case.
The first line states "A royal beekeeper has admitted giving a banned drug to his honey bees in what is believed to be the first case of its kind in the UK"
Having followed the proceedings on here and read the statement issued by the gentleman in question. I think they should be corrected, but its not my place to correct them. Then again maybe its none of my business to even comment here. But thought you should know.

[prakel]

Having a low oppinion of the paper-pushers to begin with, this isn't a subject which I'd want to dwell on but I think that it's worth noting the shallow, knee-jerk reactions of so many people on various social media who don't have the sense to do even the most basic research before embarking on their own small minded righteous crusade.

I've personally been aware of the 'OTC/improvemnet' notice for a few years as it's been openly available on the internet; OK, no background information but I'm sure that a private, genuine enquiry to C4u would have received a clear explanation of the situation from his perspective (I personally didn't enquire because, bluntly, I didn't/don't perceive it as being any of my business) my point is that the bones of the information have been available for years but so far as Im aware no one has commented openly....until the press jumped on the 'Royal' angle and turned the whole thing into something that it isn't, at which point all of these beekeepers crept out of the woodwork to jump on the bandwagon. Too many people worrying about what others are doing.

[Calluna4u]

Having a low oppinion of the paper-pushers to begin with, this isn't a subject which I'd want to dwell on but I think that it's worth noting the shallow, knee-jerk reactions of so many people on various social media who don't have the sense to do even the most basic research before embarking on their own small minded righteous crusade.

I've personally been aware of the 'OTC/improvemnet' notice for a few years as it's been openly available on the internet; OK, no background information but I'm sure that a private, genuine enquiry to C4u would have received a clear explanation of the situation from his perspective (I personally didn't enquire because, bluntly, I didn't/don't perceive it as being any of my business) my point is that the bones of the information have been available for years but so far as Im aware no one has commented openly....until the press jumped on the 'Royal' angle and turned the whole thing into something that it isn't, at which point all of these beekeepers crept out of the woodwork to jump on the bandwagon. Too many people worrying about what others are doing.

Sitting in my office waiting for the arrival of a bee inspector to check out some queens we are exporting.

Saw this post from prakel appear.

The improvement notice stuff was kicked out at the first hurdle. The whole process was apparently incompetent and riddled with errors. Shame it was apparently left active on the particular website. good thing is that my key clients either were unworried by it all or asked a few basic questions. The whole court case matter seems to have gone to bed, at least in any circles that matter, extremely fast.

We carry on, unfazed and unhindered, as if nothing had ever happened. I got a lot of supportive and encouraging messages, from beekeepers and non beekeepers alike. A warmer reception than I ever expected, and have only locked horns with a couple of people who really did not want any facts to get in the way of their keyboard warrior status, so refused to read the press release, which had been agreed by BOTH sides. I don't visit the Irish place any more...used to years ago...but it seemed to turn into a bit of a loony sanctuary for a while so I just left it and never went back. Whilst neither status sits comfortably with me, far more seem to be treating me as the 'caped crusader' than as the 'master criminal'.

Seriously, the new season is WAY more important.

[Jon]

Who wrote the "An Beachaire" article GG?
I'm in the UBKA rather than FIBKA so I don't get the magazine.

Murray - most of the Irish posters are on the Irish Beekeepers Facebook site now. The old Yahoo site has pretty much died a death.

[Greengage]

Who wrote the "An Beachaire" article GG?
I'm in the UBKA rather than FIBKA so I don't get the magazine.

Murray - most of the Irish posters are on the Irish Beekeepers Facebook site now. The old Yahoo site has pretty much died a death.

Its on the news and Views page signed by the Publicity Officer FIBKA

[Calluna4u]

Who wrote the "An Beachaire" article GG?
I'm in the UBKA rather than FIBKA so I don't get the magazine.

Murray - most of the Irish posters are on the Irish Beekeepers Facebook site now. The old Yahoo site has pretty much died a death.

Lol...never been on facebook...really fear that could turn into a time eater.

The time I was involved on Irish stuff, and that was as a result of being invited to go there by a guy I was corresponding with, was in the days of the Irish List. I don't know if it even still exists.

Once it was swamped by the small cell theorists and FGMO evangelists it was time to go.

One of my fellow moderators on Bee-L at the time quoted something very wise to me (no idea where the original quote came from) which was something like this.....'Never mud wrestle with a pig....you can't win and besides,...the pig rather enjoys it.'

[gavin]

Once it was swamped by the small cell theorists and FGMO evangelists it was time to go.

One of my fellow moderators on Bee-L at the time quoted something very wise to me (no idea where the original quote came from) which was something like this.....'Never mud wrestle with a pig....you can't win and besides,...the pig rather enjoys it.'

I quite enjoyed the occasional sparring with Dee Lusby and Ruth Rosin! [small cell and the dance language 'controversy' respectively] Maybe that makes me a pig. As Jon said it has died a death with perhaps one post a year. Ruth in particular was good fun. Those debates taught me a lot about human nature.

G.

[Greengage]

That face-book page is a dangerous place, I have to pick my fights or should I say the timing, a little subtle barb brings them out. its the people in the audience that are more dangerous I think the kids refer to them as stalkers, I think they are all members of where the wherethefockarwe tribe.
A work colleague described them to me as people in a dark continent who run in the long grass and every now and then jump up and ask where the F~~ck are we. I like that quote above.

[prakel]

We carry on, unfazed and unhindered................
Seriously, the new season is WAY more important.

Isn't that the truth.

I've mentioned before on a different thread that a sports science book which I read as a teenager had a paragraph in it that really 'stuck' with me, it was along these lines:

"If you tell a jogger and a runner to stop or they'll die, the jogger will stop. The runner will go out and do ten miles".

This rule holds good for most things, beekeeping included. We can get on and do it or worry about things which might never happen/aren't relevant.