SHB petition

[crabbitdave]

There is always black markets in any area where money can be made, Murry and John both said the imports to uk could be nearly double the registered ones very this very scary and it's before any ban, Murry did come up with a good idea to allow only queens on new cages to be brought in to uk, to help with stocking problems.


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[prakel]

There is always black markets in any area where money can be made, Murry and John both said the imports to uk could be nearly double the registered ones very this very scary and it's before any ban, Murry did come up with a good idea to allow only queens on new cages to be brought in to uk, to help with stocking problems.

Yes, but we're repeatedly hearing that there are very high levels of illegal imports, no mention of 'could be'. If it is the truth and not a smoke screen to divert attention from the people bringing in legal imports then anyone who now claims to know the facts needs to report what they know. If they don't actually know anything beyond 'could be' then primary attention plainly needs to be swung back to the way in which the legal side of things is ran.

[EK.Bee]

First time someone receives a big fine or custodial sentence for illegal import would turn that tap to a drip only (if not completely off)

The rewards aren't comparable to the drug trade so the incentive to take the risk isn't there

I agree with Prakel it's a could be, maybe

[Duncan]

Well, we know for certain that illegal imports were made from other EU countries in to the UK. The importers even made their own "risk assessment". But it was OK because these were the right type of bee in the eyes of the importer.
Having knowledge of the details could also make one as guilty as the importers - but where should this imformation be passed to? FERA? NBU?

[Rosie]

Well, we know for certain that illegal imports were made from other EU countries in to the UK. The importers even made their own "risk assessment". But it was OK because these were the right type of bee in the eyes of the importer.
Having knowledge of the details could also make one as guilty as the importers - but where should this imformation be passed to? FERA? NBU?

Who is "we". This knowledge certainly bypassed me.

[busybeephilip]

I know of someone in the past who was caught accepting illegal imports - the authorities took little action apart from confiscating the queens and reciting the import regulations. As EK Bee said, a hefty fine would slow things down.

[Jon]

Those will be the queens from Georgia, US you are referring to Phil. There is still a reference to that incident on the FIBKA site.

[prakel]

So far as eu illegals are concerned:

I have speculated in the past that the drive to bring in bees illegally may be due to not wanting to risk focussing attention on an apiary with an existing, in-house, disease problem.

[Calum]

The easiest way to put a stop to imports is to produce enough decent, reasonably priced colonies in the UK.
Its not rocket science.

[mbc]

The easiest way to put a stop to imports is to produce enough decent, reasonably priced colonies in the UK.
Its not rocket science.

By the lively informed discussions on queen rearing on here, this forum is going some way to addressing this