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    Default Your gallery of 2D plots

    Let's make this one a 'Sticky', in other words it will always be at the top of this section.

    Post your DrawWing or other 2D morphoplots here. One day I'm going to impress you all by doing a 3D plot, but I don't know how to get the software working on a web page.

    If you struggle with posting plots, one of our members will be glad to help you out. Just ask. You ought to be able to upload it onto the site if you like, or can host it elsewhere (Photobucket, Flickr etc).

    So, if you'd like to go public with your plots of wing venation patterns .... .... and feel free to add pictures of the bees themselves if you can ....

    - Where are the bees (roughly)?
    - Do they look native in other respects (brown or blackish, without the grey bands of Carniolans, stocky, couple of orange spots at most, white cappings)?
    - What are you going to do with them now?

    If this goes well we could end up with an Amm swap-shop for compatible areas in terms of Varroa and disease status.
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    Here are 5 of mine, the only 5 I have had tested in fact. I haven't been selecting based on Drawwing charts. I did send off samples of the bees which I thought had AMM characteristics and I have a few other colonies which are probably more hybridised.

    These are well west of Stranraer just outside Belfast.

    jon-col34..jpg jon-col33..jpg jon-col22..jpg jon-col26..jpg jon-col19..jpg
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    These two are from my father's apiary in Co. Tyrone. He has a near neighbour who has bought in Carnica queens which may explain the degree of hybridization.



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    This is one of Jimbo's from Rosneath Peninsula

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    Hi Guys,

    Still trying to get an image on. I think I might not have the correct photo editing software. Will keep trying.
    Did I mention there is a mars bar for the first person who submits an image with 50 dots in the red box

    Jimbo

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    I could get 50 dots in the red box if I used a sample of about 80 bees. Is that cheating?

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    Hi Jon,

    That is cheating. What some people will do for a mars bar! Making progress with the images . Can get the scan image onto a powerpoint, crop and paste etc and save that as a jpeg, however my version of powerpoint will not open the saved jpeg as I don't have the file converters. Will speak to my IT guys next week when I get back to work.

    Jimbo

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    Hi Jon,

    Just looked at your plots. Col 33 and Col 22 look good. What percentage of AMM did you get and did you change the AMM limits default value of 2.000 to 2.100 as recommended by BIBBA.

    Jimbo

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    col 33 was 74% with the limit set at 2.0. Col 22 was also 74%.
    Would have been a bit better at a limit of 2.1.
    Those two are from unrelated queens. I have more rigmarole about it in my blog.

    I have those two marked down for queen rearing but 33 is barely nuc sized at the moment as it was a very late colony headed by a queen which was mated in September last year.
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    Hi Jon,

    I have so far 5 unrelated queens with a value from 70 -90% with the limit at 2.000. I have another 3 colonies that are poor and will not breed from. At present I have moved the poor colonies to another site so that any drones from them will not mate with my good AMM queens. There is also a couple of other beekeepers with good AMM queens with high values but have hybrid colonies close to them. We intend to take any queen cells from these colonies to my site with the high percentage of AMM for mating to try and preserve the AMM stock. Will keep you informed on how well it goes. It is our aim this year to produce as many black queens as possible and start to re-stock the hybrid colonies on our Peninsula.

    Jimbo

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