Swarms or bees

**The Drone Ranger** · 26-07-2013, 08:53 AM

Where can I get more spam
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Sorry Neil an Gavin I must be reading a different thread
Good result on not being robbed of £92 Drumgerry

**Dark Bee** · 26-07-2013, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Neils

Lindsay,

I don't disagree with you on most of what you say. The joys of Text based communication, people get the wrong end of the stick, I saw as much if not more rudeness coming from elsewhere. I've re-read the thread and I can see how what I read originally as Dave's not unreasonable request to keep his request on topic, rather than it dissolve into what this has become, might be considered rude. However I think the lecture(s) he received after that to be unwarranted.

I would also address dark bee but as s/he's throwing a strop and leaving the forum, I don't see much point to be honest. To my mind someone who was upfront about being new to beekeeping made a not unreasonable request in a section of forum designed for exactly the sort of post they made, i.e. wanting to obtain bees, but received a lecture for their trouble and the ludicrous suggestion that they're traipsing around the forum as a "self appointed" expert. Rightly or wrongly I felt that we, collectively, were starting to get into the realms of berating a new beekeeper for being new hence I made the post that I did and in response to you rather than Dark Bee as I was making a general point rather than, as has been construed, not having the decency/courage to criticise someone in particular.

One of the great strengths of this forum is that it is generally pretty welcoming to newcomers both to the forum and to beekeeping and in this case I felt that it was starting to tip into an area of condescension that I felt was unbecoming . I was, myself, pretty heavy handed in my critique and for that I apologise.

Sir,
I find your post to be tautologous, misleading and evasive, you are clearly using the fact that I am leaving this forum as an excuse to avoid taking responsibility for your allegations. I invite you to tell me now anything which you believe would justify, or effect how I view these said allegations. It is likely to be in your interests to do so.
To avoid any suggestion of entrapment by me; the attitude towards me and false allegations made against me coupled with the clear and absolute support of the forum management has no precedent here. Because of this, I have engaged the help of one or more of the family members who are practising lawyers. The reason for the above discrimination will be established and whatever action deemed appropriate will be taken.
DB.

**drumgerry** · 26-07-2013, 12:34 PM

As a man with a law degree can I just say you're on a hiding to nothing there Dark Bee. You're reaction to all of this is fairly unreasonable and maybe you need to just move on from it.

**Dark Bee** · 26-07-2013, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by drumgerry

As a man with a law degree can I just say you're on a hiding to nothing there Dark Bee. You're reaction to all of this is fairly unreasonable and maybe you need to just move on from it.

Not so, and a very ineffectual defence of the allegations made against me. The law in the area of human rights and discrimination is complex and case law makes it more so, it is in fact a specialised field.
You have volunteered the information that you have a degree in law, are you also solicitor ?
Would you please say why you regard my reaction as unreasonable.
DB
P.S. The legal opinion(s) I have and will obtain are being provided free of charge. Now if you are a lawyer you will understand why I made that clear and recognise the significance.

drumgerry, you fail to grasp some basic facts, the most important being that the issue of "Daves" abusive response was over and done with as far as I was concerned, I was not giving another though - just made a mental note to avoid responding to him in future.
Then "Neils" came along and made a very offensive post about me to another person; effectively raising again and broadening the issue. I have given everyone involved an opportunity to justify (or not) their behaviour. When that has been done; whatever action is deemed appropriate will be taken. That is a fair and reasonable attitude and I definitely am not "on a hiding to nothing". There have been no threats of any sort made by me and no intimidation, either expressed or implied.

**drumgerry** · 26-07-2013, 01:40 PM

Aye whatever you say Dark Bee. Maybe I should sue you for your allegation regarding my failure to "grasp...basic facts". Maybe Dave should sue you for describing him as an "instant expert". Can you see how ridiculous it could become? I think you're missing the point on the rough and tumble of forum life. Perhaps it's not for you if you can't agree to disagree.

And yes Gavin - I'm in agreement 100% with Neil as well and would testify to such effect in a court of law!

And for your information Neils is one of our moderators who has been supporting this forum since its inception. Maybe you might want to have a think about that.

**marion.orca** · 26-07-2013, 03:35 PM

All this mumbo jumbo, just because somebody asked where they can get bees ? May the big bee god in the sky help us all then ! Might be wise to get a grip.

**drumgerry** · 26-07-2013, 03:39 PM

Watch it Marion - you'll be getting sued next!

**marion.orca** · 26-07-2013, 03:55 PM

My little wings are quaking drumgerry !

**marion.orca** · 26-07-2013, 04:20 PM

And in keeping with the above, I'll enter a plea of insanity ! I have learnt a new word from it all, so all is not lost - tautologous. There was I believing a new species of plant for the honeybee had been found - until Wikipedia set me right.