A battle is raging....apparently!

[drumgerry]

http://www.scotsman.com/news/environ...pers-1-2880342

I see the letter referred to is from that paragon of reasoned debate Graham White/borderbeeman. The quotations are absurd in the extreme - the extinction of every bird and bee beckons courtesy of neonics apparently. Do these journalists take the time to even find out whose propaganda they're publishing? Nice picture of a bumble though - clearly their photo library doesn't extend to the honeybee.

[worm (JTF3)]

http://www.scotsman.com/news/environ...pers-1-2880342

I see the letter referred to is from that paragon of reasoned debate Graham White/borderbeeman. The quotations are absurd in the extreme - the extinction of every bird and bee beckons courtesy of neonics apparently. Do these journalists take the time to even find out whose propaganda they're publishing? Nice picture of a bumble though - clearly their photo library doesn't extend to the honeybee.

In many ways he is a 'paragon of reasoned debate'.
I don't think he posted this piece on this forum,so I'll give the link: http://www.gdriveurl.com/?idl=813645622675&out=1
I fail to see how anybody would not be moved to try to change some of our current practices after reading this coherent observational essay on our foolish mistreatment of wildlife.
It takes a while to read, but well worth it. Good photos,too.

It would be good if some of those who voted against Eric's motion were to read Graham's piece above, then reflect.(Gavin, Jon, Phil?)

[worm (JTF3)]

In many ways he is a 'paragon of reasoned debate'.
I don't think he posted this piece on this forum,so I'll give the link: http://www.gdriveurl.com/?idl=813645622675&out=1
I fail to see how anybody would not be moved to try to change some of our current practices after reading this coherent observational essay on our foolish mistreatment of wildlife.
It takes a while to read, but well worth it. Good photos,too.

It would be good if some of those who voted against Eric's motion were to read Graham's piece above, then reflect.

Nobody found the time to read and reply?

[drumgerry]

Life's too short.

[worm (JTF3)]

Life's too short.

And it's you who criticises me for posting irrelevant stuff here!

[drumgerry]

And it's you who criticises me for posting irrelevant stuff here!

Sorry the extent of my life is far from irrelevant and certainly it's far too short to be engaging in pointless round the houses arguments with you Eric. I wonder if it seems coincidental to anyone else that the tone of the forum has been somewhat compromised since your return.

[Neils]

Nobody found the time to read and reply?

People who have time on their hands will inevitably waste the time of people who have work to do.

[The Drone Ranger]

People who have time on their hands will inevitably waste the time of people who have work to do.

Thats me in a nutshell

[worm (JTF3)]

People who have time on their hands will inevitably waste the time of people who have work to do.

Well, I started early,worked all day, and am still prepared to post now. Zealot, idiot, call me what you will, you should read Graham's piece.

[Neils]

Well, I started early,worked all day, and am still prepared to post now. Zealot, idiot, call me what you will, you should read Graham's piece.

Why should I read it? he just copies and pastes stuff with the odd bit of highlighting.

It's interesting that he now appears to be an official spokesman for Friends of the Bees and more so that their only action so far is to bemoan beekeeping, and other, organisations for not toeing their line in campaigning against Bayer.

Here isn't the place to raise some legitimate concerns about that organisation but I'm all ears as to why I should pay any attention to him.