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    Quote Originally Posted by fidan View Post
    Hello colleagues. Whether used in your region are hives?
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    Maybe there is such a topic. I have not found. Sorry if that is not the case.
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    Interesting video, Fidan. Very impressive.

    I'm trying to understand your question. Can you perhaps rephrase your question? Asking the question in a slightly different way might help (or am I the only one who that doesn't quite understand Fidan's question?).

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    [QUOTE=Mellifera Crofter;15207
    I'm trying to understand your question.[/QUOTE]

    Which kinds of hives do we use?

    If so ....

    National
    Smith
    WBC
    Langstroth
    Commercial
    Dadant

    and Warre, Top Bar Hive or various designs (sometimes), Dartington, BeeHaus .....

    but not any longer .... (as far as I know)

    Cottager
    Stewarton
    Glen

    .... and several more.

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    Thanks Gavin! Maybe Fidan can then tell us what they're using. To me the hive boxes look smaller and more square than Langstroth all-mediums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gavin View Post

    .... and several more.
    Correx! Would look good with Vladimir Putin on the front!


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    Can you perhaps rephrase your question?

    Mellifera Crofter, Kitta, sorry for my English.
    Vladimir Khomich my friend. I'm looking for on the Internet beekeepers who use such beehive. On your forum is not found. My question - Does anyone uses the hives?


    What race of bee is he working with? They are very dark but the odd one had a yellow band.

    Vladimir says about the breed - probably karpatka. Perhaps karpatka sister carnika. Vladimir exchanges with other beekeepers best queens.


    The main thing unfamiliar was the additional slotted entrance just above the standard entrance. I assumed this might be a way to simply reduce the

    entrance to stop robbing?
    Apparently, it is a winter bottom box. Dead bees will not close the slot entrance.

    Vladimir says about himself on his website. In Russian - http://pchelhom.ucoz.ru/
    In English by Google - http://translate.google.com/translat...hom.ucoz.ru%2F

    Correx! Would look good with Vladimir Putin on the front!
    Sorry. This is not Putin. I do not understand this humor. Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fidan View Post
    I do not understand this humor. Sorry.
    That would make such a great signature line

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    Quote Originally Posted by fidan View Post
    Apparently, it is a winter bottom box. Dead bees will not close the slot entrance.

    Vladimir says about himself on his website. In Russian - http://pchelhom.ucoz.ru/
    In English by Google - http://translate.google.com/translat...hom.ucoz.ru%2F
    A superficial look suggests that this is another excellent link Fidan, some interesting looking articles to read. Thanks again.

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    Hi Fidan.

    Apologies for the twisted humour. Could not resist!

    I make temporary plastic boxes out of old election posters.
    The box in the video has one of our local politicians on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fidan View Post
    ... Vladimir Khomich my friend. I'm looking for on the Internet beekeepers who use such beehive. On your forum is not found. My question - Does anyone uses the hives? ... Vladimir says about himself on his website. In Russian - http://pchelhom.ucoz.ru/
    In English by Google - http://translate.google.com/translat...hom.ucoz.ru%2F
    Thanks Fidan - your English is just fine (probably better than mine).

    No, I've not seen hives similar to Vladimir's being used in the UK. One-box systems are used. The most well-known one-box hive system is Langstroth all-mediums (frame depth is 6.25" or 157mm and the top bar is 19" or 48.26cm long). (A Langstroth medium box is the same size as a Dadant shallow). Below is one of my Langstroth all-mediums:

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    Some of the others include:

    The Rose Hive system - but that's not a popular hive because parts aren't readily available. The Rose hive is almost the same size as a National (the hive that Neil illustrated) but the boxes are shallower than the National brood box and deeper than the National supers.

    A lot more popular than The Rose Hive is the Warré. People often make their own Warré hives. The outside dimensions for a Warré are, I think, 340mm x 340mm and, looking at your friend's website and his plans for The Alpine Hive, I think the Warré is the closest to your friend's hive design but the boxes are deeper. (Anybody - please correct me if I'm wrong! I'm not very good at reading plans. I need to see things in front of me.)

    I'm not surprised that Vladimir's Alpine Hive and the Warré have similar outside dimensions because I notice that Vladimir refers to Roger Delon's climate-stable hive. I tend to think of Roger Delon and Warré as having had very similar aims - am I right? I also agree with them. I think those dimensions are ideal for a healthy colony: as winter progresses, they only need to move higher and higher - they don't have to cross cold frames from left to right to get to their food and, I think, are less likely to suffer from isolation starvation.

    So why don't I have Warré hives .... I still have to make them! Perhaps I will. With my present hives (National and Langstroth) I try as much as possible to compensate by reducing the space with dummy boards.

    However, unlike the Warré, Vladimir's Alpine Hive has the more usual, contemporary design similar to, say, a Langstroth all-medium hive. I found the Langstroth all-mediums difficult and clumsy to handle. I think the boxes are too large. I'm now in the process of changing to Nationals. Looking at Vladimir (is it Vladimir in the video?) manipulating his hives, it seems a lot easier as the boxes are so small and easy to lift. I'm not sure I would like that many boxes in a hive though. Perhaps handling that many boxes might become easier with more experience - I don't know. (I'm starting my fourth year of beekeeping and still think of myself as a novice.)

    I'm pleased you told us about your friend's website. It's fascinating. What about yourself? What hives do you have? And is The Alpine Hive a popular hive in your area?

    Kitta
    Last edited by Mellifera Crofter; 08-01-2013 at 12:55 PM.

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