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    Quote Originally Posted by chris View Post
    On the manufacturer's site, it is clearly stated

    Dinotefuran is highly toxic to honeybees

    So, what is there to make a fuss about ? The maker has done the necessary testing. The product is not authorized in France, and I suspect not in the UK though please correct me if I'm wrong.
    I am quite taken aback by the responses on this thread to evidence of commercial products used to stop stinkbugs affecting rice , albeit in Japan, which are found to produce, under controlled conditions, all the symptoms of ccd over a month or three.

    One of them, Clothianidin, is used in Europe and the US. the other, maybe not. But Chris seems quite relaxed that Dinotefuran is used in Japan, despite the fact that it is highly toxic to honeybees and is persistent and systemic, because it says that on the tin.

    I thought this was a site centered around the business of looking after bees.

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    Bees? I thought this was the Scottish Badger Association. That might explain why they got so cross when I tried to stuff 60,000 of the buggers into a small wooden box.

    But you're right, it's about looking after bees here. If you want anti big business/chemical campaigning with a side nod to bees can I suggest Biobees? Safe Land for Bees might also be interested, but they're mainly concerned about Phone Masts.

    It's possible to be concerned about looking after bees without having to jump on every passing bandwagon that decides it wants to attach itself to the perceived 'plight' of honey bees. There is enough decent research and analysis that gives cause for concern ongoing that attempting to concoct a campaign around 'wont somebody think of the bees!' using studies based on stupid criteria does no-one, especially beekeepers any favours.

    Massive doses of insecticides kills bees, really? That is a surprise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nellie View Post
    Bees? I thought this was the Scottish Badger Association.
    Badgers are so passé. I am here to stand shoulder to shoulder with the Japanese stink bugs in their hour of need.

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnthefarmer View Post
    I thought this was a site centered around the business of looking after bees.
    In theory it is - but we seem to attract a fair few non beekeeping single issue campaigners as well.
    Last edited by Jon; 11-10-2012 at 06:10 PM.

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    "Badgers are so passé."

    They will be shortly...

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    From the ashes of the cull will rise a super badger tougher than teflon and itching for revenge on the hapless farming community. Has the makings of a Hollywood blockbuster.

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    Will need a sprinkling of neonicotinoids to make it really sinister.

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    And some GM worms in the badger diet to make them glow in the dark during the scene where they destroy Gloucester by night.

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    In fact, a real brockbuster.

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    brockbuster
    You speaking Japanese now?

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    Sorry, I forgot that you were all there with the stink bugs. Will they be in it too? (If there are any left...)

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