No. HBOT is used for a variety of illnesses but is not usually recommended by the NHS. I have used it myself and find it to be effective for sleep apnoea, high blood pressure, chronic fatigue and cardiovascular problems.
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No. HBOT is used for a variety of illnesses but is not usually recommended by the NHS. I have used it myself and find it to be effective for sleep apnoea, high blood pressure, chronic fatigue and cardiovascular problems.
Anaphylaxis is not a 'lost' immunity ... it is a hypersensitivity, an overly strong immune reaction to the antigen. Desensitisation to antigens is a well-established and (usually) effective solution to what might otherwise be a life-threatening reaction.Quote:
Originally Posted by chairman dave
Oxygen therapy may well be very effective on the symptoms chairman dave reports, but none of them are immunity-related.
I agree with Fatshark, but you need to remember that desensitizing treatment is not a cure and will save you if you get a sting or two but if you received many stings at once then you would be in trouble
Hi Phillip
If I'm on the right track it seems its an overreaction by the less common of 2 possible immune responses
I didn't know until I this thread that desensitizing was needed so often
Can anyone tell me though if someone had a severe reaction once would that mean it will always happen ?
Could a less severe sting, say on the hand just have a normal reaction ?
On the plus side though we have loads of referendums and elections and therefore an abundance of free correxQuote:
Originally Posted by chairman dave
In fact ,although the oft quoted "streets of London are paved with gold" may be a gross exaggeration
I think we can justifiably claim the streets of Edinburgh are truly paved with Correx
Welcome to the forum Dave and thanks for the tip :)
p.s. I have put the dog outside because I think he may well be using up too much of the oxygen in the living room
Dogs sleeping on the floors of living rooms and kitchens often suffer a medical manifestation of hypoxia irrespective of altitude. By example, a domestic gas cooker will emit four alien gases each with different atomic weights and they also consume the oxygen dogs need for the protection of their immunity.
I don't know the answer to that but maybe someone who has undergone the full treatment would give us the answer to that. How have they got on with bee stings after treatment.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Drone Ranger
I had to have a specialist check out that I was indeed allergic to bee stings after my reaction. He took blood and also put 4 little injections of something just under the skin, one of which was bee venom and that was the one that reacted though when he did it I didn't know which was which.
Hi BridgetQuote:
Originally Posted by Bridget
I was wondering, because although you couldn't chance being stung on the head or something, usually through rubber gloves its more of a light jab with very little venom involved
Don't test the theory though its too risky
How much venom is in those test is it just a minute amount ?
The dog is very troublesome I think he might have heard me reading Daves post
I found him in the kitchen fiddling with the cooker
He is a short haired Bavarian Biscuit Hound they are very clever
I think that there is some confusion here regarding sting reactions. Many persons, in fact most, will have a local swelling around the area of a sting, if on the tender tissues of the face and neck this can produce some spectacular swellings to the point where eyes close over, in some cases it may affect breathing due to swelling moving into in the throat. These persons do have a bad reaction but this is not anaphalaxis. GP's will immediately say you are allergic, many have little immunological knowledge and will always diagnose sensitivity to protect themselves.
Alaphalaxis will occur when a vulnerable person is stung anywhere on the body, usually the first "immunizing" sting will be OK but this is the one that will induce a unique type of antibody response making that person sensitive to the next sting. It does not even need to be a sting, venom on glove/beesuit can prime a persons immune system by skin absorption/inhalation. Symptoms of anaphalaxis are very clear, you dont need to have massive local swelling, infact there maybe very little swelling at all, the afflicted person will/may experience a rash over the trunk of the body both chest and back, breathing difficulties begin within a few minutes, asthmatics will reach for their inhalers only to find that they do not offer any relief and breathing will become more difficult as the breathing capillaries in the lungs swell and close over. If its the first episode the reactions will not be so severe and slower and strong dose of peritin will give you time to get to a hospital. However, the next sting is the one that will kill you as your body has been primed a second time and all those antibodies are just waiting to work their magic. When this happens, same symptoms but will occur much much faster, its only the epipen/s that will give you enough time with assistance to allow you to get to hospital. Also, you can get a delayed anaphalaxis which is why a hospital admit you for some 24 hours.
Some good news, if you dont get your 2nd sting, over time (years) the effects of a potential 2nd sting do wear off but will never ever go away
How do I know all this - my daughter is a true anaphalactic and of course I get the blame for it.
Thanks Phillip
Thats a great explanation
I just bought a better bee suit and I'm glad
Its odd how someone can be stung hundreds of times for years no problem, and then out of nowhere -- curtains
Re the doctors covering themselves
I can usually tell when a posh politician expects a caning
You can see a book shaped bulge down the back of their trousers